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#1 Carie

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 04:28 PM

At one time I had a apple pie filling recipe (for canning) that used cornstarch as a thickener rather than sure jell or that type of thing. I seem to have misplaced it. Does anyone have a recipe that doesn't use sure jell?
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 07:10 PM

APPLE PIE FILLING

7-8 quarts of sliced apples(set aside)
4 1/2 c sugar
1 c cornstarch
1/4 t nutmeg
2 t cinnamon
1 t salt (opt.)
10 c water

Combine and cook (no apples yet)until starts to thicken, set aside. Add enough apples to fill 7-8 quarts. Seal with lid. Cook in pressure cooker at 5 lbs pressure 5 minutes. (or 20 minutes hot water bath)

Got this from my neighbor several years ago and make it every apple windfall year:?) It's yummy! Is it similar to the one you lost?
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 10:38 PM

Krissy,
Yes thank you! I think that is it! You are such a blessing! We got the apples free (thanks to my grandfather's part of an orchard) but there was no way I was going to be able to afford all that sure jell stuff the other recipes were calling for.
I really, really appreciate it!
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 11:11 PM

You are most welcome:?) Enjoy your pie!
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 11:39 PM

I think we better check with Violet. I don't think you are supposed to can with cornstarch, only regular Clear Jel. I went to our Extension Office and got their recipe for apple pie filling. It also has quite a bit of lemon juice, which may be for safety. The time to process this, was 30 mins., for quarts. Maybe Violet will be around tonight and review this. I canned 51 jars of it, since yesterday and it is yummy.

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Posted 24 September 2008 - 01:21 AM

Mom11 is correct. It is not safe to use this. You need the bottled lemon juice for safety. Also, cornstarch not only breaks down, it will lower the ph level, unlike Clear jel.
It is Clear Jel for pie fillings. Sure Jell is for jams.

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Posted 24 September 2008 - 10:12 PM

I'm not one to argue, but I will be making this again this year as my apples come into the house.
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Posted 24 September 2008 - 10:19 PM

I will take it into consideration, but that is the recipe that I have used before so I probably will again. Thanks for the heads up though!
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Posted 25 September 2008 - 11:52 AM

Cornstarch, flour and tapioca are no longer considered safe for canning. I used to put tapioca in to thicken my pie fillings when I canned them, because I am allergic to corn--and the Clear Jel is made of corn so I can't use that, either.

What I do now is simply can the pie apples with the sugar and spices, lemon juice only and then add a couple tablespoons of wheat-free flour mix when I open the jar to bake the pie. It's not much trouble, and it works fine.

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 12:12 PM

I just canned 3 pints of sliced apples, and instead of syrup I used apple cider I had on hand. DH is allergic to cinnamon, so I did not use any spices at all so I could use them for anything when I opened the jar.
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Posted 29 September 2008 - 04:18 PM

Here is the one from our website (link at bottom).

Apple Pie Filling

28 cups apples, peeled and sliced or shredded (not too fine)

Syrup:
4 1/2 cups white sugar
1 1/4 cup clear jell or Therm Flo
2 tsp. cinnamon
1 tsp. salt
10 cups water

Cook syrup until thick and bubbly. Add:
3 tbsp. lemon juice


Pour over apples in large dishpan and mix. Spoon into sterile jars; don't make jars too full as it expands while processing. Put in hot water bath for 20 minutes. Makes 8 quarts.


Hints: We sliced the apples as opposed to shredding them. Plus I used Therm-Flo as it makes a creamier syrup. Also, we made a double batch but we did one batch at a time. Enjoy
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Posted 04 October 2008 - 10:15 AM

I've been wondering about canning apple pie filling also.

I should have known something was amiss when I couldn't find an apple pie filling recipe for canning in my Ball Blue Book. read

Would it be ok to freeze apple pie filling made with corn starch?

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Posted 04 October 2008 - 02:52 PM

You can freeze pie filling with cornstarch or flour. I think there is a recipe in the Ball book for it. Perhaps it was a different book, but I know there is one.
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Posted 04 October 2008 - 03:00 PM

Is Therm Flo the same thing as Clear Jel? I see it at the Mennonite Store, but been afraid to use it for canning, since I wasn't sure what it actually was.

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Posted 04 October 2008 - 09:20 PM

Why not just can it without the corn starch then add it when you open the jar?

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 02:16 AM

http://www.dutchvalleyfoods.com/food/ItemD...31-14919b8dd79c
It says it is modified corn starch, so I think it is comparable. I would use it for pie fillings and not be concerned about it.
Clear Jel is modified food starch, but it is also from corn. I know you can buy it here in a big bag at Cash n Carry/United Grocers. It is pretty cheap per pound, but you have to buy a big bag. I think it was 25 lb. of it.
This is from another site : http://www.oakhillbulkfoods.com/gelatin_pudding.php
Clear Gel or Therm Flo
Use as a clear thickener. Boil 4 cups fruit juice or water. Add cup thickener. Do not over boil. Therm Flo freezes well and can be used for canned pie filling.


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Posted 05 October 2008 - 09:01 AM

For the record, everyone is responsible for their choices.

But also for the record, I would strongly suggest others, who are not willing to take risks in their home canning, to refrain from using cornstarch in the preservation process. If someone is determined to use cornstarch, flour, other type thickeners that are known potential problems, then so be it. "This is how I've always done it" is not proof positive that it is a safe practice to teach other people when scientific proof states otherwise that it is potentially unsafe.

With that said, I just bought 500lbs of apples yesterday to start canning this week. Trip fell in love with my split peas soup with ham that I had canned so I'm in the process of making a 30qt pot of that to can up today. Once I get that outta the way, I'm going to start in on the apples and I'll be taking pictures to post on the site.


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Posted 05 October 2008 - 10:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Darlene
For the record, everyone is responsible for their choices.

But also for the record, I would strongly suggest others, who are not willing to take risks in their home canning, to refrain from using cornstarch in the preservation process. If someone is determined to use cornstarch, flour, other type thickeners that are known potential problems, then so be it. "This is how I've always done it" is not proof positive that it is a safe practice to teach other people when scientific proof states otherwise that it is potentially unsafe.

With that said, I just bought 500lbs of apples yesterday to start canning this week. Trip fell in love with my split peas soup with ham that I had canned so I'm in the process of making a 30qt pot of that to can up today. Once I get that outta the way, I'm going to start in on the apples and I'll be taking pictures to post on the site.

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PLEASE don't hate me or kick me off
but I need to know. . . . .
just where does it say (in print) that you can't use clear jell or Therm Flo in canning?

I see all kinds of recipes using it but can't seem to find anything about NOT using it?
so help us learn - give us the facts not just he said - she said.
Thank you for understanding-

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 12:54 PM

Amishway Homesteaders, she isn't saying you can't use Clear Jel, or Therm Flo, as those products are safe to use.

She is saying it is unsafe to use regular cornstarch and flour, etc. smile

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 01:47 PM

Yes to what Pogo said...

ClearJel and Therm Flo are scientifically proven to be safe for home canning. Starch, flours, etc., are scientifically proven NOT to be.

Hope that clears up any confusion I may have caused.

It's ok AH...we all know you get confused from time to time...

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