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[mommafitz]

It's sad and scary to read about the grocery incidents and people "losing it". I read the posts aloud to DH.

Yesterday, before reading this thread, DH and I were discussing the way things have changed regarding safety. He's a LEO. He's been predicting for over a year now that these tough times are going to make people
do drastic things. We live in a small town that has a big problem with Meth. When meth users are "tweaked out" they are very unpredictable. More and more people are unemployed and depressed. They decide to use the drug because it makes their worries go away and they feel better or decide to make and sell it for a living. If they are users they steal to support their habit. Thefts in this county continue to rise.

DH also stresses the need to be constantly aware of your surroundings. It must come second nature to me now. A car followed me home from work Friday evening and had me concerned. I have to make numerous turns to get home. We live at the last driveway on a dead end road in a subdivision. It was still daylight and It is very obvious that the road ends when setting at the stop sign. The car turned around in a neighbors driveway but it felt "weird" to me. I was glad DH was home waiting for me.

There's a big probability that DH will be changing jobs within the next couple of months. The hours he works will be different (depending on the shift, of course). I might be home alone a lot. My dern bulldog is a big baby and not much of a watch dog even tho he is in the house!

Anyhoo, I am concerned. The daylight is getting shorter and it will be dark-thirty before I get to leave work. Should I attempt to make any stops for errands at night before coming home? These things, among others, are floating around in my head........

A few years ago one of our dealership's customers was accosted and kidnapped while putting her groceries in the trunk of her car at Kroger. She was rescued unharmed and the bad guy was caught. Thank Goodness.

[gofish]

This happend in 2001 but it's when I started thinking what I would do at work and when I'm in town.

I work in a industrial park. Some of the factories are more than 1 building ( mine has 3 and is the largest) and some are very small. A worker walked in one of the smaller factories and started shooting his coworkers. 30 to 35 people worked there. He killed 1 and wounded 6 befor killing himself.Most of his coworker fled to other factories.
This was only 2 buildings away form my building.

I had just gotten off work and was starting home when I heard serins. A lot of them.
I live 4 miles from work and near a small airport. The kids school a mile from where I work.I heard more serins and helicopters started flying overhead. This was soon after 9-11 so I was freaked out.
Turned on the news and found out the industrial park I just left and my kids school is in lockdown.


Yes, I look for the out , place to hide and think how I will get my now teen kids to safety.

[CrabGrassAcres]

Mommafitz, you might want to strongly consider carrying. A .38 or .357 would make somebody think twice about bothering you. Also, a powerful flashlight in your hand as you go out to the vehicle or leave it to go inside can help. Shine it all around the vehicle and into the bushes, if any. Be sure to keep a cell phone handy. I wouldn't make a single stop after work if it is dark. Fill the gas tank on your way to work if you need to, but don't stop for gas after dark, and don't stop anyplace you either have to leave the vehicle or open the window for anything.

[Ambergris]

Mommafitz, you might be surprised at how quickly that baby grows a pair should someone approach you at home.

[TheCG]

This was in the next town over from me: http://www.mywesttex...e0a0173525.html

I saw someone being taken through Walmart in handcuffs the other day.

[TheCG]

Someone on another forum I'm on had her groceries stolen while she was in the restroom with her daughter who was throwing up. The surveillance video shows a man WITH HIS KIDS taking the basket.

[Darlene]

I received a phone call from someone who is not an alarmist, who is deeply immersed in the financial industry who said, "some bad economic news is about to strike...I should let you know what it is..."

They went on to explain that banks haven't been foreclosing on propertys because there are so many that if they did, the market would go down and we would definitely be in a depression. People are living in homes they haven't made payments on in 2.5 years...so banks are getting ready to start foreclosing. Basil 3 (which originated in Switzerland), is trying to issue a global rule for banks. There is 1/2 trillion homes about to be flooded into the market which is going to lower our property values to half. We're going to be in a serious depression. We've run outta money...the dollar has broken down. They're talking about going back on gold standard...all money is going to be worth less, and prices will go down which would create deflation. Consequently, we're in a super bind.

We all know things are getting worse and will become even moreso, but it always catches my attention when those who aren't as immersed in the prepping lifestyle as we are, become alarmed as they see these things coming quickly down the pike.

Anyway, for whatever it's worth, that's what crossed my path last week. I did some research on this 'Basil III', and there is some information out there (Basil I and II were instituted in the past...III is what they're trying to introduce now).

[Darlene]

I think it's time to start a new thread...things are accelerating quickly.

Here's the link to Part 16: http://mrssurvival.c...showtopic=38266

[Ambergris]

I received a phone call from someone who is not an alarmist, who is deeply immersed in the financial industry who said, "some bad economic news is about to strike...I should let you know what it is..."

They went on to explain that banks haven't been foreclosing on propertys because there are so many that if they did, the market would go down and we would definitely be in a depression. People are living in homes they haven't made payments on in 2.5 years...so banks are getting ready to start foreclosing. Basil 3 (which originated in Switzerland), is trying to issue a global rule for banks. There is 1/2 trillion homes about to be flooded into the market which is going to lower our property values to half. We're going to be in a serious depression. We've run outta money...the dollar has broken down. They're talking about going back on gold standard...all money is going to be worth less, and prices will go down which would create deflation. Consequently, we're in a super bind.

We all know things are getting worse and will become even moreso, but it always catches my attention when those who aren't as immersed in the prepping lifestyle as we are, become alarmed as they see these things coming quickly down the pike.

Anyway, for whatever it's worth, that's what crossed my path last week. I did some research on this 'Basil III', and there is some information out there (Basil I and II were instituted in the past...III is what they're trying to introduce now).

This must mean worldwide, since there are fewer than 200 million houses in the US.

[Darlene]

This must mean worldwide, since there are fewer than 200 million houses in the US.

I didn't even think of that but you're right.

I'm going to ask them about that specifically.

[Ogre]

I didn't even think of that but you're right.

I'm going to ask them about that specifically.

Please do and let us know if you would.

Ogre

[TurtleMama]

We're going to be in a serious depression. We've run outta money...the dollar has broken down. They're talking about going back on gold standard...all money is going to be worth less, and prices will go down which would create deflation. Consequently, we're in a super bind.[/i]

We all know things are getting worse and will become even moreso, but it always catches my attention when those who aren't as immersed in the prepping lifestyle as we are, become alarmed as they see these things coming quickly down the pike.

Okay, here is a (probably stupid) question....

If we are working on building up our preps, would it make more financial sense to wait until after prices have depreciated in order to really, really start stocking up? Or will availability go down with price? In other words, if I really want to make some significant purchases, should I do it now, or gamble on being able to get more for less down the road?

We've known about the shadow inventory in foreclosure homes here in the southwest for a while, now...didn't know that it was a nationwide or worldwide issue...

[CrabGrassAcres]

When they talk about deflation, they are basically talking about things like houses, over valued land, stocks, bonds, etc not being worth as much. These are things that have been over priced and need correcting. Expect to see INFLATION to continue on things you need to purchase like food, clothing, other necessities. Expect to see the value of you home decrease and if you have money tied up in the stock market that will decrease. Expect to see taxes INCREASE.

I am out of debt so I'm using my income to purchase items I know we will need to have. I'm investing in building materials and fencing at the moment. I've put back food, clothing and spare footwear already. Any purchases such as a new canner that I know will be needed, or canning supplies, are not delayed past the time I have cash in hand to buy them.

If you listen to the gov, there is no inflation, but deflation. If you watch prices of the goods you need to purchase, you will see they are lying to us.

[TurtleMama]

Oh yes, I've known over the past two or three years that they are lying to us...every time I go to the grocery store, I see it. I just don't know how anyone can believe what .gov is saying right now regarding inflation and "coming out of the recession." As far as I'm concerned, with REAL unemployment the way it is, we're already in a depression. It's just slowly getting worse.

Thanks, CGA, for clearing up the deflation/inflation issue. Time to start revving up again.

[TurtleMama]

Here's a link I found on Basel III for anyone who is interested...it's a little over my head at this point, I didn't have time to really go through it thoroughly...but I'm trying to figure out how Basel III has the foreclosure market tied into it -- I guess that pursuing the foreclosures would be an easy way for the banks to raise their required percentage of capital??

Here's the link:
http://seekingalpha....iii-mean-to-you

And another from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basel_II

The second is about Basel II, but will give you a more stabilized insight into what Basel III is trying to do.

CONFUSING!!!! LOL

[Ambergris]

I got a Capital One solicitation yesterday, offering me a credit card. The only criteria listed is that "Your annual income must be greater than your annual rent/mortgage payment in order to be eligible for this offer."

Think about that for a minute.

[Ambergris]

This must mean worldwide, since there are fewer than 200 million houses in the US.

I didn't even think of that but you're right.

I'm going to ask them about that specifically.

Could be the half-trillion means a half-trillion dollars' worth of homes?

[Darlene]

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Could be the half-trillion means a half-trillion dollars' worth of homes?
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That's probably what he said/meant, but I'll still check to find out for sure.

[Mt_Rider]

"Your annual income must be greater than your annual rent/mortgage payment in order to be eligible for this offer."

by Ambergris


......uh, ya THINK?


MtRider

[ScrubbieLady]

In the last two weeks, my son has gotten 3 soliciations from Capital One.