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Posted 19 January 2011 - 02:20 PM

This is only a bare intro to weaving but I hope it piques your curiosity enough to do more research on your own.

People often think of weaving in terms of floor or table top looms. Certainly those forms of weaving give a versatility to weaving you might not get with a simpler weaving technique but weaving can, as it has for centuries, be done on very simple looms or even without a loom at all. Only your imagination will limit you. Here's a few ideas.

First......There are four words that a person should learn if they want to weave anything on any loom. Those are WARP (usually the vertical support in a weaving project); WEFT (usually the horizontal filll); OVER and UNDER (the process). There are lots of other words associated with weaving but knowing just these four words can help you produce a simple woven peice.

The Over and Under simply refers to the Weft being laid over the first Warp thread and then Under the next warp thread and etc across and that in the next row of your weaving the opposite is used. (Weft under the first and then over the second) Each row alternating is what 'holds' your piece together.

A couple of ordinary items will help with the weaving projects. A fork or comb will work as a "beater" to press the weft strands together. Yarn needles can help to get the weft where you want it as can "shuttles" that are made to hold yarn wrapped around them. Pick up sticks, flat smooth pointed sticks' make it easy to pick up certain warp threads (and hold them up by turning the stick sideways) so you can place your weft threads through in a smoother motion can also be helpful. You can, however, do this all with your fingers.

Now that is a very simplistic intro to weaving but you can use it to "imagine" all sorts of projects.

Paper weaving: Strips of paper can be woven just laying on a table and turn out interesting place mats. For children, we often just cut multiple slits in a piece of construction paper that leaves about an inch all the way around solid. Then give them strips of paper or cut ribbon to weave in and out as they desire. It is not always even or neat with younger children but the outer rim of paper keeps it all contained and it almost always is BEAUTIFUL. A great weaving project for a very young child is to take a strip of cardboard perhaps two inches wide and six or eight inches long, cut openings cross ways up the length and let them "weave" ribbon in and out of those openings. This makes a wonderful book marker. There are a lot of more intricate forms of paper weaving that can make baskets and different designs. You'll find a challenging woven paper heart basket here ...http://www.enchantedlearning.com/crafts/Heartbasket.shtml There are lots of projects online for paper weaving.

Cardboard is another great weaving medium. The simplest one is just a piece of cardboard with slits cut at top and bottom about a quarter inch apart. Yarn or string is wrapped around each slit at the top, down the front, and around the slits at the bottom and back up again until all the slits are filled, creating the Warp. Then using a yarn needle and a long strand of yarn or thread (the weft), starting at the top or the bottom, thread yarn over and under each Warp thread, remembering to alternate each row the opposite of the one next to it, until the cardboard is filled. You can also just wrap the Warp around the cardboard "loom" and fill both sides, creating a longer piece. Cardboard looms make great bags but they must be warped in a way that allows the piece to be open at the top. More on that later if anyone is interested. A cardboard box makes a great loom as well. Just cut out an opening in the lid using that area to work in. Warp the box by wrapping the yarn around it, put the lid on (it helps hold the yarn in place), and have fun.

An open door makes a great loom. If you have two children who both want to weave, a bottom cupboard door works great as the yarn can be wrapped totally around the door and each child works on a side of it. When they tire of it for the day, just leave the pieces on the door and shut it out of the way. Using a full sized door, perhaps on a bathroom or bedroom, gives a larger piece when finished and is a great medium for those in apartments who have little space for any kind of loom. It also makes a good decorating statement, especially if it's in the colors that match your room or you get creative and weave a tapestry like picture into it.

Picture frame loom: An ordinary picture frame with the glass removed makes a grood loom.. It can be used as is with the yarn wrapped around it or small finishing nails can be placed at intervals across the top and bottom for use in warping the loom. Even round ones can be used but the weaving has to be from the center out in a circle and is a bit more tricky but very fun. Or a round or oval one might be used like the spool knitters and stocking hats or bags made on them. (You can buy these looms, sometimes called knitting boards, online or look at them and make your own.)

Wagon wheel rugs were made in the past using the rim from ...you guessed it,,,, a wagon wheel but smaller versions can be made using an embroidery hoop and bigger, usable ones, can be made using a Hoola Hoop. Just try to get one that doesn't have lights in it. The one I have does and it "blinks" at me each time I use it. LOL My DH made a round loom for me out of a motorcycle tire rim. A bit heavy but works for smaller rugs. You can find the directions for this type of weaving online under Wagon Wheel Rugs.

You can weave with nothing but a stick/wooden dowel, or chair back by just tying your warp to it and finger weaving them over and under starting at one side and continuing to weave from that side as did the Native Americans for their belts. You can also use a clip board for this as well if the spring is tight.

The choice of weaving material can determine the piece too. I've woven with pipe cleaners, long thin branches from trees, ribbon, rafia, corn leaves, wheat, straw, and anything else that might lend itself to over and under.

These are just a few of the possibilities for weaving. You are only limited by your imagination and if you once get the basics down you can find so many things to weave on or in. It might not be possible to weave all the material you might need in a SHTF situation but knowing the basics might give you an edge by letting you produce bags or straining cloths, or any number of items that would help.

Okay everyone, be sure to jump in here with ideas of your own.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 03:41 PM

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 08:59 AM

The "Open door" idea never occured to me, but it sounds so useful! I've been wanting to learn a bit of weaving, but the cost of looms was so high, that it was shelved until I had the house in hand. Buuut, the idea of using doors (and other things) to set up simple looms . . . I would love to make some tapestries for my house-- although I've quite a bit of artwork that still needs hanging, I love textures and things that are both different than the norm and practical. Tapestries would definitely fit into my personal style (that being a somewhat Neo-Victorian Eclecticism that blends Far Eastern and medieval European influences, with a dash of Steampunk thrown in for fun). If I start them this summer, they could be done for next winter hanging! Maybe. Depends on my learning curve. . .

And, being able to design them myself, I could make sure the images were what I wanted . . . (I have some small tapestries a firend in college made me, which are passages in the original Greek from the New Testament. Like, I think one is the first chapter of Mark, the other is one of the accounts of the Visitation. . .) so some biblical themes would work right in . . . (wanders off, thinking. . .)
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 09:06 AM

Thanks so much for posting this! I can't wait to experiment on a small scale. I bought some woven pot holders at a craft show once. I love them because they are thick enough to be used as trivets for hot pots, too! Maybe I can try to make my own version of something like that. If it is small, then I am more likely to finish it.



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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:58 PM

Michael, thanks for the kind words. I've always loved your ingenuity when it came to "making do". I was hoping you would come up with some more "made" looms for us to try.

Zophiel, I have a six foot opening for our bedroom doorway. I am hoping to put two 3 foot doors in there that have the center panels removed. I will be using them to "create" a woven piece that I will leave on the door as the "art" itself. The hanging will already be done. I'm sure it will be an exacting project and not finished in a short time but I have no where to go and time on my hands. It will be a challenge to keep them sturdy enough as these will be sliding doors that can both be pushed out of the way so my wheel chair will fit through easily. I'll also have to be creative with weaving near the top but I'm sure a tall stool will help with that.

TMC, It really is easier to start with small pieces and experiment with them so you know what you enjoy. If you look around, at the thrift shops, I know Walmart carries them, you will find pot holder looms and the loops that are used to weave on them (or use old socks cut in loops). These are really good first lessons for anyone to try, not just kids. And I use one for all sorts of small weaving as well. These small pieces are great when sewn together to make bigger projects like shawls or afghans. There are actually mini-looms of three and four inches that are used to make all sorts of items. There are daisy looms and hairpin lace looms and etc etc. Weaving, knitting, crocheting, netting, even macrame and more are all part of the same fiber art. Once you try one or two things it becomes almost addictive for some people, me included. There is always another fiber art waiting in the wings. I almost always have five or more projects going at the same time as I never get bored with them that way.

You don't need a lot of money to practice this craft either. You just need to be on the lookout for the materials and supplies on the cheap. Thrift stores, auctions, etc. I have found small table top looms for less than $20 at flea marrkets, one was even an antique that I found later was worth a whole lot more. Now I look at things with a whole different perspective. I'm always saying,,,,so what can I use THAT for? Like the 'open door' things...It's just a door,,,,,right? or is it? :grinning-smiley-044:

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 05:46 PM

Hmmm...there may still be a potholder loom hanging around this house. I used to make those a lot as a kid and I was pretty good at it, too! I think I remember my kids being given one. I don't remember them getting rid of it, either.

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 07:09 AM

I had 'tried' to make a Wagon wheel rug before (after seeing one in a museum) but I just went and did it (without directions) and it came out weird.
Didn't know you had 'to move' the spokes after starting the rug?
So this time around I GOT direction out of a book and plan to try again. I am using a large hoop for quilting (about 3 feet round) so we will see how this ones goes?
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 07:28 AM

Michael, thanks for the kind words. I've always loved your ingenuity when it came to "making do". I was hoping you would come up with some more "made" looms for us to try.



Well thanks..........................
OK I will think and get back in here but for now-
Did you know you can make a small loom out of a meat tray?
Get one that is a bit thick , the whit ones are, and cut 'notches' on the long end. Wrap yarn around and around your 'tray loom' pull it into the notches but not to tight (you don't want to bend the loom). Now get a peice of cardboard about 6 inches long and 2 inches wide and cut 2 big "V" one in each end. Wrap what yarn you plan to weave with onto it and then just 'weave' with it on your loom. Seeing there is no way of pushing the warp yarns up and down you have to weave each time over then under,over then under,over then under,over then under. Or use a pencil to do that and then just push the weft yarn back and forth. You can use a comb to push the yearn down as you go. When done just cut off the loom and try the ends (like for a scarf). For BETTER direction just "Google it"

This will make nice coasters or a blanket for a doll.
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Want to know a secert..........................
How does Michael remember Warp from Weft when doing Museum Tours?
THINK:
Warp factor 5 .... from Startreck! Those dots of light going away from you in the begining? The WARP yarn goes away from you on a loom.

and the Weft is easy........... Weft... Right..... Welt..... Right..... (aka left - right) YUP! that is the yarn that goes LEFT and RIGHT on the loom.
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 07:32 AM

Hmmm...there may still be a potholder loom hanging around this house. I used to make those a lot as a kid and I was pretty good at it, too! I think I remember my kids being given one. I don't remember them getting rid of it, either.



We have a few of these (and still use them) GREaT for when kidsd are around but don't like the 'new loops' thay are just NOT the same as the old ones?
So we watch yard sales or Thrift shops for the old ones (cheap).
DID you know you can use these looms and some 'thick' yarn to make coasters? you have to 'weave' it tight right up to the ends to make it stay together but it works.
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 10:11 AM

Thanks for the tips, Michael! I already decided that I'm going to try to make something soon...Dunno what yet but it will definitely be small so that I can finish a project in hours, not days!

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 10:17 AM

GREAT ideas Michael. Thanks. I like the idea of using the meat trays. :happy0203: I really like your way of remembering warp and weft too. I can't wait to use both those ideas with the home school kids.

I like to use a smooth, flat, pointed stick, think lathe maybe or craft stick, as a "pick up stick". If you 'weave' it through your warp you can leave it near the top out of the way. A hole drilled in each end will give you the ability to tie it loosely to the frame of your loom so it stays in the warp. When you want that particular shed 'opened' you just pull it down, turn it sideways and it holds those threads apart so you can put your 'shuttle'with the weft yarn through them. You will then lay it flat again and push it back to the top out of the way.

For the next row you will have to do the over under thing again but you can also use a flat stick for that too and turn it sideways so it 'opens' those threads. You will have to remove that one after each row though as it will interfere with the other one. To make that even easier, if you 'loom' is sturdy enough to withstand some pulling, you can make a set of string heddles to lift that second set if you want. Instead of trying to describe any of this,,,this site has a great set of instructions, complete with drawings, that explains making a simple loom, complete with instructions for making the string heddles. http://www.marlamallett.com/loom.htm

Wagon wheel rugs....I have the directions, actually two different ones and mine still don't seem to lay flat and I've been weaving for years. The directions I have don't call for "moving" the spokes but for adding them as you go along. Hmm, might like your directions better. The ones we saw at Historic Nauvoo in Nauvoo, Illinois had beautiful "V" shapes in them from the placement of the spokes. Can't seem to get that. At least it's a challenge for me to keep trying with all kinds of hoop shaped objects. I know that embroidery hoops make great doll house rugs as that's what I practiced on first. (yup, I love all things miniature too. )

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 09:56 PM

I bought yarn... I BOUGHT YARN!!! We went to the mall this evening specifically to go to the dollar store so I could check to see if they had yarn. I only go to this particular store about twice a year. It is the mall and I tend to avoid the mall like the plague. Well, it isn't a true dollar store where things only cost a dollar, but I got 18 of the small skeins of yarn for $1.25 each. They also had crochet hooks and knitting needles for 99 cents, so I bought a few of those, too. I don't really know how to knit, though. I know how to start to knit when you load the first needle up with those first stitches. I learned that when I was eight, but I never learned the rest. So when I finish posting this, I plan to find a tutorial to get to the next step. I feel inadequate using only one needle!

We also stopped in the book store while we were in the mall. We each had gift cards leftover from Christmas. I was hoping to get a crocheting and/or knitting book but they were all too expensive. My daughter has a crocheting book that she's going to lend me, though. As I said before, my crocheting is pretty basic and I should probably learn a bit more.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 06:15 AM

so you went to buy some yarn.............................
and you bought 18!
Wow you ARE going to make something. LOL

Keep us posted on how it is going.
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Posted 22 January 2011 - 09:04 AM

WAY to go! What do you think people? Does she have the "bug"? You know of course there is no cure! You CAN keep it under control though by periodically picking up that yarn/needles/hook/loom/etc and DOING something. :grinning-smiley-044:

I can't wait to hear what you started first..

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 10:00 AM

It was kind of late by the time that I started, so I was a bit tired. I started out by casting on in knitting. I found a tutorial online that confused the heck out of me about how to start the next row, so I took that apart and picked up the crochet hook. I was going to make a granny square, but midway, I decided to make a flower instead. It required three types of yarn and I plan to make many more and attach them together to make an afghan. I figure that even if I put it away for awhile, I can still go back to it at any time. I only bought 3 skeins of each color/type of yarn so, I'm going to send my daughter back to get some more of the colors that I'm using. She works in the mall and is there 5 days per week, so it should be easy for her to do.

Maybe today, I will be a bit more alert and better able to follow the instructions in the tutorial. Otherwise, I will have to find a new tutorial for dummies!

This is the one that I used:



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Posted 23 January 2011 - 06:44 AM

granny squares are the BEST!
you can make them as you go,,,, and finsh one so it looks like you did something. LOL
AND
after you made a bunch of them you can put them together for a blanket (lots)
a couch throw (some)
a scarf ( a long row)
chair pads (a few)
or even a stocking at Christmas time(8)

also a good way to use up small pieces of yarn......................... So you HAVE to go out and buy MORE!
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Posted 23 January 2011 - 11:21 AM

Stop enabling me, Michael!!

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 04:29 PM

Stop enabling me, Michael!!



w h o.... l i t t l e...ol' ...me ? :laughkick: :laughkick: :laughkick:
To late for Christmas ? maybe next year....................
But Lori just reminded me that if you make granny square out of red an dgreen yarn alll you need it 1 to make stockings for the tree!
You just fold in half from the one corner to the other, sew up the 2 sides, add a hank loop of yarn t top, and it really looks like a little stocking.:thumbs:
Maybe for next year? this is also a good way of giving money as you can roll/fold it up and put into the little stocking.
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 07:21 AM

Well, I inherited a floor look, a table loom, a spinner and all kinds of threads and unspun fiber. I've been trying to find some classes around here...Madison is really psyched about learning how to weave, and I'd really like to learn too but so far I haven't found any.

There are pieces of things that I found in bags that I have no idea what they are. I'll have to take some pictures and post them to see if any of y'all know what they are. Also, if some of these items are missing pieces, I wouldn't know it lol.


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 03:56 PM

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