I am in the tri-state region. Md. Wv. and Va, A lot of folks over the last few years have been moving into the country side. A majority have money. So they move in to some of the older houses with some land. One of the first things they do is get some cattle, sheep, or goats. This gets them an agriculture tax break. Also they enjoy the animals.
Yet they do all this without realizing we are really starting to have a time here with coyotes in this area. When one of their animals gets killed they yell for animal control to come out every time. As always they are told to get a gun and be ready to handle it themselves, Which they fail to do.
Chickens. I have all my runs closed by wire over the tops and wire set into 2 feet of concrete.
Just things I notice of folks that want the life without excepting what it takes or deals out to you.
Things I have noticed
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Posted 26 December 2011 - 10:48 PM
In our area, it is generally doctors who "play" with cattle and want a farm loss on their tax return. The I R S hardly ever checks these things.
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Posted 27 December 2011 - 01:53 AM
Can't be easy to know the solution and see people not do it. If they are real city folk, perhaps they just don't know how to deal with it.Just things I notice of folks that want the life without excepting what it takes or deals out to you.
As someone who knows the ins and outs, could you perhaps have a relaxed conversation about those pesky coyotes and how you deal with them? folks might not say it but pick up your tips and learn? To everyone's benefit.
With your knowledge of rural life, you could be a real help to them.
She looked at the wolf with a sweet smile . The wolf asked what was in her basket. `Food for Grandmother`she said..
She then opened her basket and took out a sawn off shotgun.
A few days later she walked through the woods in her new wolfskin furcoat...
Lesson learned, so not mess with girls who are brave enough to go into the woods on their own.
She then opened her basket and took out a sawn off shotgun.
A few days later she walked through the woods in her new wolfskin furcoat...
Lesson learned, so not mess with girls who are brave enough to go into the woods on their own.
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Posted 27 December 2011 - 11:40 AM
A lot of city folks just don't know any better... They've read a couple of articles in Mother Earth News and think about how nice a few animals will look decorating the yard. Often times, they'd be better off by purchasing a few lawn ornaments rather than actually having livestock. Christy's suggestion might be right on the money!
I think I shared this story before here:
My mom was a city girl that really liked the idea of living in the country because she enjoyed wide open spaces and growing things. Dad was raised in rural Florida and had experience in growing plants/crops because his parents had been sharecroppers. Dad had a minimal amount of experience with free range bantams, but that was it, animal-wise.
When I was 8, my mom's friend from work gave us some Muscovy ducks, silkie chickens and guinea fowl. We built pens out of chicken wire and A frame houses out of plywood. I'm pretty sure that every predator in a ten mile radius stood up and cheered because a new fast food joint had opened up on our property.
We lost birds to hawks (because the pens had no overhead wire), raccoons (because chicken wire isn't strong enough to keep them out) skunks (because we thought that they were harmless), owls (whoooo knew that we had owls living in the barn?) and what was probably a peregrine falcon since we found poufs of feathers!
We just didn't know any better. We did try to learn by getting books at the library but it seemed like every time that we figured out how to thwart one type of predator, a new one came along. None of our neighbors kept poultry, which was kind of surprising since we lived in a very rural environment!
I think I shared this story before here:
My mom was a city girl that really liked the idea of living in the country because she enjoyed wide open spaces and growing things. Dad was raised in rural Florida and had experience in growing plants/crops because his parents had been sharecroppers. Dad had a minimal amount of experience with free range bantams, but that was it, animal-wise.
When I was 8, my mom's friend from work gave us some Muscovy ducks, silkie chickens and guinea fowl. We built pens out of chicken wire and A frame houses out of plywood. I'm pretty sure that every predator in a ten mile radius stood up and cheered because a new fast food joint had opened up on our property.
We lost birds to hawks (because the pens had no overhead wire), raccoons (because chicken wire isn't strong enough to keep them out) skunks (because we thought that they were harmless), owls (whoooo knew that we had owls living in the barn?) and what was probably a peregrine falcon since we found poufs of feathers!
We just didn't know any better. We did try to learn by getting books at the library but it seemed like every time that we figured out how to thwart one type of predator, a new one came along. None of our neighbors kept poultry, which was kind of surprising since we lived in a very rural environment!
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Posted 27 December 2011 - 08:33 PM
Rural knowledge really is a STEEEEP learning curve to navigate. Rural attitudes [like being able to shoot and kill something...even if it's murdering your dear animals] is much, much harder to acquire. Big shift from the attitude of "Oh...look at the wonderful wildlife" to..."GIT OUTTA HERE, YOU MURDERING VARMIT!" The idea of "couldn't we all just get along" does not work with people. It surely does NOT work when one tries to apply it to wild animals but...hope springs eternal in some folks. 
Some will come to understand/accept the Rural Realities and some won't. 
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Some will come to understand/accept the Rural Realities and some won't. MtRider [....you know that joke about someone forgetting to tell the tiger? ]
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Posted 27 December 2011 - 09:41 PM
These neighbors that have given me so much trouble moved here from town and demanded that I put my livestock guardian dogs in the house at night because "he" couldn't sleep for the barking.
If my LGDs were shut up at night, I would have NO livestock left shortly. I hear coyotes nearly every night. They are really bad here. Plus we have coons, foxes, owls, hawks, skunks, possums and wild hogs.
If my LGDs were shut up at night, I would have NO livestock left shortly. I hear coyotes nearly every night. They are really bad here. Plus we have coons, foxes, owls, hawks, skunks, possums and wild hogs.
"Have mercy on me, my God, have mercy on me, for in you I take refuge. I will take refuge in the shadow of your wings until the disaster has passed." Ps 57:1
"Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise,making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. " Eph 5:15,16
"Do not be afraid because of the words that you have heard" 2 Kings 19:6
Have you hugged your goose today?
"Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise,making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. " Eph 5:15,16
"Do not be afraid because of the words that you have heard" 2 Kings 19:6
Have you hugged your goose today?
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:37 AM
The only critters missing from CGA's place are the lions & tigers & bears...Oh, my! 
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 11:04 AM
Now don't you be bringing ideas into her head. Next thing we know she's got a chair in one hand and a whip in the other rounding up dem tigers like there's no tomorrowThe only critters missing from CGA's place are the lions & tigers & bears...Oh, my!
She looked at the wolf with a sweet smile . The wolf asked what was in her basket. `Food for Grandmother`she said..
She then opened her basket and took out a sawn off shotgun.
A few days later she walked through the woods in her new wolfskin furcoat...
Lesson learned, so not mess with girls who are brave enough to go into the woods on their own.
She then opened her basket and took out a sawn off shotgun.
A few days later she walked through the woods in her new wolfskin furcoat...
Lesson learned, so not mess with girls who are brave enough to go into the woods on their own.
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:42 PM
Yes, Ed, I forgot about the Bobcats. I've been told there are Mt. Lions and bears and wolves, but have not seen any of those myself. No tigers though.
"Have mercy on me, my God, have mercy on me, for in you I take refuge. I will take refuge in the shadow of your wings until the disaster has passed." Ps 57:1
"Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise,making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. " Eph 5:15,16
"Do not be afraid because of the words that you have heard" 2 Kings 19:6
Have you hugged your goose today?
"Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise,making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. " Eph 5:15,16
"Do not be afraid because of the words that you have heard" 2 Kings 19:6
Have you hugged your goose today?
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:44 PM
Oh, don't forget the Chupacabras!
"Have mercy on me, my God, have mercy on me, for in you I take refuge. I will take refuge in the shadow of your wings until the disaster has passed." Ps 57:1
"Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise,making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. " Eph 5:15,16
"Do not be afraid because of the words that you have heard" 2 Kings 19:6
Have you hugged your goose today?
"Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise,making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. " Eph 5:15,16
"Do not be afraid because of the words that you have heard" 2 Kings 19:6
Have you hugged your goose today?
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 07:28 AM
Guess that's a very good start. You are showing yourself a good neighbour and people might get back to you on info or help.I do stop and speak with them. Some listen and learn and some don't. The ones I have gotten to know are good folks for the most part.
To everyone's benefit in normal times and certainly if the midden were to hit the windmill.
Keep it up Hansen.
She looked at the wolf with a sweet smile . The wolf asked what was in her basket. `Food for Grandmother`she said..
She then opened her basket and took out a sawn off shotgun.
A few days later she walked through the woods in her new wolfskin furcoat...
Lesson learned, so not mess with girls who are brave enough to go into the woods on their own.
She then opened her basket and took out a sawn off shotgun.
A few days later she walked through the woods in her new wolfskin furcoat...
Lesson learned, so not mess with girls who are brave enough to go into the woods on their own.
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 08:59 AM
Oh, don't forget the Chupacabras!
One of my neighbors thought that I had a chupacabra in my backyard...He works late and on moonlit nights, the male quail crow...Gaaks-schplaatt!
He's kinda young and is a city-lifer, but it was comical when he shared that with me!
Edited by themartianchick, 29 December 2011 - 09:00 AM.
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 09:06 AM
Oh, don't forget the Chupacabras!
Or the peligros.... yanno, those little creatures that live in burrows, jumping out at anyone who passes and gnaws their ankles off.... you see the signs all over.... "Danger ~ Peligro"
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 09:39 AM
LOL, Martian, I had some quail in the house at one time and they escaped their cage. It is a startling experience to have a quail cock decide to crow under your bed!
Ann, I've never been bitten by a pellegro, but I'll watch out for them!
Ann, I've never been bitten by a pellegro, but I'll watch out for them!
"Have mercy on me, my God, have mercy on me, for in you I take refuge. I will take refuge in the shadow of your wings until the disaster has passed." Ps 57:1
"Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise,making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. " Eph 5:15,16
"Do not be afraid because of the words that you have heard" 2 Kings 19:6
Have you hugged your goose today?
"Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise,making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. " Eph 5:15,16
"Do not be afraid because of the words that you have heard" 2 Kings 19:6
Have you hugged your goose today?
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 11:26 AM
Those quails sure have a voice befitting a vulture or something. They scared the Dickens out of me once at a agri-show.
Hadn't heard one before, walk past a cage, jumped nearly to the ceiling.
Hadn't heard one before, walk past a cage, jumped nearly to the ceiling.
She looked at the wolf with a sweet smile . The wolf asked what was in her basket. `Food for Grandmother`she said..
She then opened her basket and took out a sawn off shotgun.
A few days later she walked through the woods in her new wolfskin furcoat...
Lesson learned, so not mess with girls who are brave enough to go into the woods on their own.
She then opened her basket and took out a sawn off shotgun.
A few days later she walked through the woods in her new wolfskin furcoat...
Lesson learned, so not mess with girls who are brave enough to go into the woods on their own.
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 03:27 PM
Those quails sure have a voice befitting a vulture or something. They scared the Dickens out of me once at a agri-show.
Hadn't heard one before, walk past a cage, jumped nearly to the ceiling.
It is a lot of amplitude for a critter that is no bigger than a mouthful!
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 08:48 PM
Those quails sure have a voice befitting a vulture or something. They scared the Dickens out of me once at a agri-show.
Hadn't heard one before, walk past a cage, jumped nearly to the ceiling.
It is a lot of amplitude for a critter that is no bigger than a mouthful!
And best served with rice and gravy!!!!!!
I remember picking buckshot out of them during dinner! LOL
John 14:27 ...Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can afford to let alone.
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Job 13:15 Though He slay me, yet will I trust in Him...
Where are we going and why are we in a handbasket?!
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A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can afford to let alone.
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Job 13:15 Though He slay me, yet will I trust in Him...
Where are we going and why are we in a handbasket?!
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Posted 30 December 2011 - 04:22 AM
With tweezers and binoculars? They are so tiny, yet so tasty....
Those quails sure have a voice befitting a vulture or something. They scared the Dickens out of me once at a agri-show.
Hadn't heard one before, walk past a cage, jumped nearly to the ceiling.
It is a lot of amplitude for a critter that is no bigger than a mouthful!
And best served with rice and gravy!!!!!!
She looked at the wolf with a sweet smile . The wolf asked what was in her basket. `Food for Grandmother`she said..
She then opened her basket and took out a sawn off shotgun.
A few days later she walked through the woods in her new wolfskin furcoat...
Lesson learned, so not mess with girls who are brave enough to go into the woods on their own.
She then opened her basket and took out a sawn off shotgun.
A few days later she walked through the woods in her new wolfskin furcoat...
Lesson learned, so not mess with girls who are brave enough to go into the woods on their own.
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