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#1 windmorn

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:08 AM

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Drowning Doesn’t Look Like Drowning
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The new captain jumped from the deck, fully dressed, and sprinted through the water. A former lifeguard, he kept his eyes on his victim as he headed straight for the couple swimming between their anchored sportfisher and the beach. “I think he thinks you’re drowning,” the husband said to his wife. They had been splashing each other and she had screamed but now they were just standing, neck-deep on the sand bar. “We’re fine, what is he doing?” she asked, a little annoyed. “We’re fine!” the husband yelled, waving him off, but his captain kept swimming hard. ”Move!” he barked as he sprinted between the stunned owners. Directly behind them, not ten feet away, their nine-year-old daughter was drowning. Safely above the surface in the arms of the captain, she burst into tears, “Daddy!”

How did this captain know – from fifty feet away – what the father couldn’t recognize from just ten? Drowning is not the violent, splashing, call for help that most people expect. The captain was trained to recognize drowning by experts and years of experience. The father, on the other hand, had learned what drowning looks like by watching television. If you spend time on or near the water (hint: that’s all of us) then you should make sure that you and your crew knows what to look for whenever people enter the water. Until she cried a tearful, “Daddy,” she hadn’t made a sound. As a former Coast Guard rescue swimmer, I wasn’t surprised at all by this story. Drowning is almost always a deceptively quiet event. The waving, splashing, and yelling that dramatic conditioning (television) prepares us to look for, is rarely seen in real life.

The Instinctive Drowning Response – so named by Francesco A. Pia, Ph.D., is what people do to avoid actual or perceived suffocation in the water. And it does not look like most people expect. There is very little splashing, no waving, and no yelling or calls for help of any kind. To get an idea of just how quiet and undramatic from the surface drowning can be, consider this: It is the number two cause of accidental death in children, age 15 and under (just behind vehicle accidents) – of the approximately 750 children who will drown next year, about 375 of them will do so within 25 yards of a parent or other adult. In ten percent of those drownings, the adult will actually watch them do it, having no idea it is happening (source: CDC). Drowning does not look like drowning – Dr. Pia, in an article in the Coast Guard’s On Scene Magazine, described the instinctive drowning response like this:Posted Image

  • Except in rare circumstances, drowning people are physiologically unable to call out for help. The respiratory system was designed for breathing. Speech is the secondary or overlaid function. Breathing must be fulfilled, before speech occurs.
  • Drowning people’s mouths alternately sink below and reappear above the surface of the water. The mouths of drowning people are not above the surface of the water long enough for them to exhale, inhale, and call out for help. When the drowning people’s mouths are above the surface, they exhale and inhale quickly as their mouths start to sink below the surface of the water.
  • Drowning people cannot wave for help. Nature instinctively forces them to extend their arms laterally and press down on the water’s surface. Pressing down on the surface of the water, permits drowning people to leverage their bodies so they can lift their mouths out of the water to breathe.
  • Throughout the Instinctive Drowning Response, drowning people cannot voluntarily control their arm movements. Physiologically, drowning people who are struggling on the surface of the water cannot stop drowning and perform voluntary movements such as waving for help, moving toward a rescuer, or reaching out for a piece of rescue equipment.
  • From beginning to end of the Instinctive Drowning Response people’s bodies remain upright in the water, with no evidence of a supporting kick. Unless rescued by a trained lifeguard, these drowning people can only struggle on the surface of the water from 20 to 60 seconds before submersion occurs.

(Source: On Scene Magazine: Fall 2006 (page 14))

This doesn’t mean that a person that is yelling for help and thrashing isn’t in real trouble – they are experiencing aquatic distress. Not always present before the instinctive drowning response, aquatic distress doesn’t last long – but unlike true drowning, these victims can still assist in their own rescue. They can grab lifelines, throw rings, etc.

Look for these other signs of drowning when persons are in the water:

  • Head low in the water, mouth at water level
  • Head tilted back with mouth open
  • Eyes glassy and empty, unable to focus
  • Eyes closed
  • Hair over forehead or eyes
  • Not using legs – Vertical
  • Hyperventilating or gasping
  • Trying to swim in a particular direction but not making headway
  • Trying to roll over on the back
  • Appear to be climbing an invisible ladder.
So if a crew member falls overboard and everything looks OK – don’t be too sure. Sometimes the most common indication that someone is drowning is that they don’t look like they’re drowning. They may just look like they are treading water and looking up at the deck. One way to be sure? Ask them, “Are you alright?” If they can answer at all – they probably are. If they return a blank stare, you may have less than 30 seconds to get to them. And parents – children playing in the water make noise. When they get quiet, you get to them and find out why.


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Posted 25 May 2012 - 11:50 AM

Wow!! Thanks for posting this!!

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:17 PM

Wow... dittos... I've never heard this before!

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 01:45 PM

I've never heard this either. As a professional with lots of years of summer camp by the lake...and ocean....I should have heard this. I was trained for Water Safety and did some nominal life guarding. {I was actually too pathetic at swimming to qualify for WSI or anything...but I could use a boat.}

In fact, I have rescued at least 6 kids who were in trouble ["aquatic distress"?] including my daughter. Yes, she was 11 and didn't stay where I told her to. I heard a couple "glub..*mom*...glub..*mom*" noises behind me and raced back to lift her into more shallow water again. Whew!

So she and a couple of the other incidents were pre-drowning. That's a good thing! But I'd never heard or thought of the term "drowning" as a verb. A thing that takes time to do but you are already in the state already. I've thot of it as in "dead". A done deal...except for the instances in very cold water where someone can be revived.


....... :blink: Wow!

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Edited by Mt_Rider, 25 May 2012 - 01:47 PM.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 01:53 PM

I guess this article would explain all those people you hear about drowning when someone is right there with them and they say they never realized they were drowning. Hope no one ever needs this info!!!


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Posted 25 May 2012 - 02:07 PM

and may I also add -
WOW!
That is right on!

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 02:37 PM

This is why I'm terrified of water. Daddy barely got to sister and me in time when I was 9 and she was 10. Even thinking about it gives me a panic attack.
"Have mercy on me, my God, have mercy on me, for in you I take refuge. I will take refuge in the shadow of your wings until the disaster has passed." Ps 57:1


"Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise,making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. " Eph 5:15,16


"Do not be afraid because of the words that you have heard" 2 Kings 19:6
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 03:55 PM

Thanks windmom~

Well, I guess my background will be out of the closet and why I did it for so many years.

I held instructor certifications from the American Red Cross and YMCA of the USA as well as Merit Badge Counselor for the Boy Scouts in Lifeguarding, Water Safety Instructor, CPR & First Aid and all the tag-ons for those programs. I was halfway through my trainer certifications when I left the Y and let everything lapse. A decision I now kick myself for.

Mt. Rider~ you are correct, you don't hear what actually happens when a drowning occurs, although it is better. I have an article written by a near drowning victim, it actually gives you a detailed description of what happens. It was written several decades ago so he is reliving it with the friend, who saved him, while they were smoking. I'll have to look for it and scan it and post.

I watched a woman who worked at the city park at the lake I grew up on, drown when I was young without knowing. She had a seizure disorder & didn't take her meds that day and was going up and down in the water. It was a hot day and everyone thought she was cooling off because she would do that when she got to hot. A friend of mine drown while boating with his parents as his mom was trying to pull him out. I've worked pools, lakes, and Lake Michigan for special events. Lake Michigan is my least favorite place to go as beautiful as it is because it's so deadly.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 04:12 PM

Thanks for sharing Jori! Just made me think I need to forward it to the kids' scout troops.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 04:51 PM

Thanks for posting this. My Monkeys don't know how to swim yet, and we are hoping to get them taught this summer...

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 07:46 PM

Near drowning... yep, been there done that.

The other kids were taunting me, "Jump, jump, jump!!!" I did. Bloop, and down I went and kept going and going and going. I clawed at the water, trying to go back up to the top. I could see the light of the surface there, just above my finger tips. I couldn't hold my breath any longer, I needed air. The body has a way of forcing you to inhale, then, darkness then, nothing. Until, I woke on the bank with a very sore chest.

I learned how to swim after that, but it took several years before I would go anywhere near water.

Now, as avid swimmers, we see so many people who are not proficient at swimming and several my DH has had to pull out and revive. Any one who does not know how to swim, please learn.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:28 PM

Our rec center in the town we were in before (Colorado) had special swim instruction and I took daughter. She's a natural. Bobs around like a cork and swam right away. I wanted to make sure if she ever fell in somewhere, she could swim cause I am not good enough to do more than barely keep my head above water and couldn't save her.
"Have mercy on me, my God, have mercy on me, for in you I take refuge. I will take refuge in the shadow of your wings until the disaster has passed." Ps 57:1


"Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise,making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. " Eph 5:15,16


"Do not be afraid because of the words that you have heard" 2 Kings 19:6
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 10:23 PM

Great Post. Thank you very much!

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 11:00 PM

I had a bad experience at summer camp as a child. I almost drowned. It made me terrified of water. For years I was a non swimmer because of my unreasonble fear. Then, in 1992 I started to Ole Miss as a non traditional (31 year old) student working towards my BA in anthropology. I had to take a PE course. So, I decided to face my fear of water and signed up for beginner's swimming. They taught us the five basic strokes. I was fine, we were in the shallow end of the pool. Then they took us to the deep end and showed us how to let ourselves sink vertically and then kick and pull with ur arms to get back to the surface. I was fine with that after a few minutes. My big irrational fear had always been jumping into water. The problem was, in order to pass the course, guess what? You had to jump in the water from the side of the pool and use the kick to get to the surface. I had told my instructor about my problem and she was great. She was in the water right next to me, was patient with several false attempts and kept me calm. So, finally I jumped. I have to say that halfway through, just before I hit the water, I changed my mind -- too late by then of course LOL. Anyway, my kick and resurfacing was, to quote my instructor "textbook perfect". The feeling I had when I came up out of that water was amazing. I have never felt so empowered in all my life. So, if you have a fear of water, face it down. They also taught us Red Cross methods to help drowning persons, the person you save if you learn to swim may be a loved one. Now, I just need to get the courage to repel down a building to get over my fear of heights :cheeky-smiley-067: !

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 11:37 AM

:cheer: Good for you, Rebeldigger!!!!! :thumbs:

Bit of a thread drift here but...you mentioned fear of heights. If you've met your challenge in the water, you will probably be able to do it for heights too. You use the same formula for ANY challenge.

You know...I think this is a very important topic deserving of it's own thread so I'm gonna quote your post from this thread and start a new one... 'K?

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 10:36 AM

There was an article in the news about a man who 'drowned' several hours after falling into the water and pulling himself out. The article was misleading as it said he got water in his lungs in the water and was still able to get out.

A living person or animal that is normal will not be able to inhale water into their lungs while conscious. The epiglottis will spasm shut. The person basically dies of smothering, not inhaling water. An unconscious person may or may not have this reflex intact. A person dead before they hit the water will get water in the lungs. That is how forensic experts know the person was dead first and didn't drown.

Prolonged immersion in fresh water while still able to breath can result in water intoxication as the body absorbs water thru the skin. If the kidneys are functioning properly and the heart is pumping well, the person will simply pee it out. If they do not, they can get fluid in the lungs and THIS can result in 'drowning' hours later.

Prolonged immersion in salt water while able to breath can result in excess salt intake and most people will excrete this. If a person has trouble getting rid of salt and drinks to compensate after getting out of the water, they can also get fluid in the lungs.

Neither is a problem in a healthy adult or most children, though children are more susceptible to this than adults.
"Have mercy on me, my God, have mercy on me, for in you I take refuge. I will take refuge in the shadow of your wings until the disaster has passed." Ps 57:1


"Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise,making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. " Eph 5:15,16


"Do not be afraid because of the words that you have heard" 2 Kings 19:6
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Posted 04 June 2012 - 01:14 AM

Parade magazine in Sunday paper had a Summer Safety Quiz. Guess which question I got right because of this thread???

Yep, What does a drowning child look like? Making racket; calling for parents or laying low in the water and quiet. :thumbs:

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