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#1 YYY

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 03:54 AM

Hi Everybody

 

Last summer I moved to my new location.  Before when I canned, I always had to use 15 lbs of pressure.  Now in my new home, I use 10 lbs of pressure.  I do remember that when I first started canning, I was told that canning at a high elevation (old location) was different  from canning at a lower elevation (new location).

 

Here in my new location, the weight just spins, steams and hisses constantly (without stopping the whole time).  Until last night, this did not bother me because as I said above, I was told that canning at different elevations was different.  Then last night on another board, I read, “the weight jiggles and lets off steam only a few times a minute, not constantly.” 

 

Now I’m super worried.  I’ve done quite a bit of canning meat since I’ve been here.  The weight spins, steams and hisses constantly, not just jiggles and lets off steam only a few times a minute.  Almost everything has sealed, and I’ve eaten some of my food with no ill effects.  I’m concerned about the safety of my food.  Is it OK?  Should I be doing something different?

 

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#2 Jeepers

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:49 AM

The first part about whether it is supposed to jiggle constantly or a few times a minute...not all canners are the same. Most are supposed to jiggle constantly but some are only supposed to jiggle a few times per minute. My canner (Mirro) is an occasional jiggler. Check the info about your canner and see how often it is supposed to let off steam.

 

The other part of your question I'll let Violet answer but it sounds like you have your heat too high.


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#3 ScrubbieLady

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:05 AM

I am not an expert but I agree, the heat is too high and so the pressure is too high and the weight is getting it out as fast as possible.



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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:20 PM

I was thinking the heat was too high as well. I hope Violet can give details for you, shes the best reference in these matters of concern.


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#5 YYY

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:12 PM

Hi Everybody,

 

Thanks for your replies.

 

I just got in.  I've been so worried that I didn't even take my coat off before checking for responses. 

 

Even though Violet has not responded yet, can one of you tell me if the food is safe to eat even if the temperature was too high?

 

I'm willing to deal with overcooked meat (from too high of a temperature), but the thought of losing all that meat has me dragging.

 

Thanks,

 

YYY



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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:22 PM

I am not an expert but I agree, the heat is too high and so the pressure is too high and the weight is getting it out as fast as possible.

 

Apparently the heat was too high in my canner tonight, and the pressure was too high too. :canning:  Instead of the weight spinning and hissing, the safety valve blew! Nothing like the sound of an 'explosion' to get your attention!!! The ceiling was dripping water all over me, It was a bit of a mess to clean up. :faint3:  None of the jars broke though. And, it tookd some major searching to locate that little critter (the safety valve). :runcirclsmiley2:


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:38 PM

Hi again Everybody,

 

Below is the thread from 2006 where I talked about being told about the difference in canning at different altitudes.  It also shows my “misadventure” during the very first time I pressure canned.  :Blushing:

 

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:06 PM

That is the function of the over pressure plug. So, what brand of canner do you have, Midnightmom ? Glad you were not hurt.

 

I also need to know what brand/ kind of canner you have, YYY.  Depends upon what brand how often the weight jiggles. Presto will jiggle the whole time. Mirro and All American should be so many times per minute. That is why I like Presto. No doubt how many times it is jiggling.

 

If it is overprocessed, it won't hurt the safety of the food. 


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:45 AM

That is the function of the over pressure plug. So, what brand of canner do you have, Midnightmom ? Glad you were not hurt.
 
I also need to know what brand/ kind of canner you have, YYY.  Depends upon what brand how often the weight jiggles. Presto will jiggle the whole time. Mirro and All American should be so many times per minute. That is why I like Presto. No doubt how many times it is jiggling.
 
If it is overprocessed, it won't hurt the safety of the food. 

It's a "Presto Preservation 100 Pressure Canner and Cooker." Weighted, not guaged.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:50 AM

aww, glad you were not standing over it when it blew. 


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:03 AM

Midnightmom, sorry you blew your safety valve. Things like that can really be discouraging. A good reminder to me to go ahead and buy an extra one to have on hand.

 

Be glad it was 'only' water that spewed. My sister-in-law wanted to surprise her mother by making supper. She put beef and noodles in her big pressure cooker and the noodles swelled up and foamed and clogged the vent pipe. The safety valve blew and noodles went ALL over the kitchen. Walls, floor, ceiling, cabinets...everywhere. It was a surprise! She laughs about it today but at the time all she could do was cry.


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#12 YYY

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:50 AM

Hi again Everybody,

 

First, Violet, thank you for saying my food is OK to eat.  I know you are only stating the truth, but I still feel so relieved.   

 

When I decided to move here, I saved every dime to have the money to build up my pantry again, as fast as possible.  I had also decided to put all that money into meat because the prices were going up so fast, and I felt I could get every thing else at on-sale prices and at a slower pace (I'm pretty satisfied with how that's progressing).  The thought of losing all that money made me C-R-A-Z-Y

 

I should have paid more attention to the heat and the big difference in the spinning, hissing and jiggling.  Before this my Mirro 22 quart would do a lot of hissing but the jiggling and spinning would be a lot less. 

 

I don't know if I need new ones or not, but I will feel better if I order and use a new weight and gasket.

 

Thanks all y'all.  I feel so much better. 

 

YYY

 

 

 



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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:30 PM

Glad you are relieved, YYY. Just clean out the vent pipe really well with a pipe cleaner or run a piece of string through it and floss it out. You should not need a new one. Unless it leaks water from the gasket, you won't need a new gasket, either.

 

Midnightmom, do the same to your canner. Can't hurt at all to clean it. Normally they don't blow that overpressure plug since they are self venting. You must have either had the heat too high or the plug was just old anyway. They must be soft and pliable. If the plug was too firm that could cause it.


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:46 PM

Glad you are relieved, YYY. Just clean out the vent pipe really well with a pipe cleaner or run a piece of string through it and floss it out. You should not need a new one. Unless it leaks water from the gasket, you won't need a new gasket, either.

 

Midnightmom, do the same to your canner. Can't hurt at all to clean it. Normally they don't blow that overpressure plug since they are self venting. You must have either had the heat too high or the plug was just old anyway. They must be soft and pliable. If the plug was too firm that could cause it.

It was a brand new plug. Just replaced the old one about 3 wks ago. I thought I would 'test' it again, so I put the lid back on, turned the heat on (LOWER this time), added the weight, and waited for it to start boiling and venting. Well, it boiled...............but the weight didn't jiggle...................the plug blew again! That confirms for me that I have to replace that little bugger!!! :canning:

It's a good thing that I only had 5 pints of pork in the canner, but now I guess I'll be eating pork for a while. I also have about 2 lbs of gr.beef that I have ready to jar. Guess I will have to eat it too, or freeze it until I can use the canner again. :Blushing:


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